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Showing posts with label 7 thunders. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 7 thunders. Show all posts

Monday, March 30, 2026

REVELATION - 19 17-21

 Apocalypse logic & riddles, weekly study, verses paraphrased [ ] references { } thots

BOOK OF REVELATION

  17 - Then I (John) saw an angel. He was radiant, as though standing in the sun. And with a loud voice he called out to the birds of midheaven.

     {To the high flying, predator birds, calling them to armageddon battle; the calling to the birds is metaphor for the literal armageddon battle about to be portrayed.}

     He called out, “Come! Gather for the great supper of God!”

     {God actually takes responsibility! Having “subjected and consigned all to disobedience” Romans 11:32. Supersized the option to stray in Eden so “all of heaven and all of earth” take this unavoidable journey through this all important contrast, all together at once.}

     18 “Come! And eat the flesh of kings, of captains, of mighty men, of horses and their riders, and of all, both free and slave, both small and great.”

     {The final war is totally mankind done. Man, we have his number, is carbon based which has 6 electrons, 6 neutrons and 6 protons. Armageddon is the last war between human empires, Isaiah 24:20/Rev.10:4, end of the Act, over and out. “All the world is a stage” - Shakespeare.}

     19 And then I saw the beast and the kings of earth, with their armies, gathered to make war against he who was sitting on the (white) horse and against his army of heaven {the two thirds faithful angels}. 20 And the {many headed, geopolitical} beast was taken, and with it, its false prophet who had done the signs [sémeion - miracles, signs, marks, tokens] {modern wonders and “miracles to mislead”} by which he deceived those who had received the “mark” of the beast and who worshiped/were in allegiance to, its image. [“The mark” is from the word - charagma- which is a “mark, stamp, sign, engraving, from charassō - meaning to engrave or stamp, the term charagma means a mark or stamp often used to denote ownership or authenticity.]

     These two {they are noT individuals, the huge (many headed, many horned/seats/powers) beast and its “false prophet” at Armageddon battle} were thrown alive {active} into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. {The fire of armageddon battle, with global chain reaction, Is.24:20/Rev.10:4.} [Jude 1:7, “Gomorrah and cities are an example of (such) aionion fire”, translated as ‘eternal fire’. Aionion is the adjective of aion, which in english is eon. So aionion fire ..temporary, sudden? ..fire of the age? Isaiah 24:20/Rev.20:4?

     The 3 mentions of a fiery lake/lake of fire, are at three separate, huge, fiery events: 1-Armageddon battle/5-thunders; 2-at the fiery, final defeat of the adversary; and 3-at the fiery “palin(again)genesis” at which time, God says “Behold! I make all new!” (translators due to disbelief? changed all, to all things.. elsewhere as well. And then “the lion will eat straw.. bear will graze with cow” Isaiah 11:7.]

     {Both this fiery ‘wonder’ the “7 thunders” (like 13:13 but which pinpointed an office) and the “strong delusion” that “seated man/anthropoi in the temple as god”/highest power, causing the west, once called Christendom, to “fall away” - are from the “false prophet” Rev.12:15?}

     21 And the rest were slain by the sWord {truth, the iron rod/unbreakable measure} that came from the mouth of He who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged. {Symbolic imagery, aka, build a house on Truth, it endures. Build using unTruth (or guile) and like being built on sand, when the storm comes, there’s crashing and fiery apocalypse. It’s what dog eat dog/every self first, does. There is one thing that can simply never (ever) work, straying from God who iS Life! ..And he “is perfect” so imperfection, logically, is the opposite of Life.

     History has - already - proven that (straying and) imperfect is an “abyss” of potential. And logically, it’s also entropy, the “worm that doesn’t quit” and the “fire”/slow burn/slow-fade/slow-gehenna “that cannot be put out”. Entropy does not reverse.

     But we have thought we humans are inherently immortal? Death is nothing more than another form of life and living? Well that idea/myth was needed for the - extremely ancient - crowd controlling spiritual propaganda myth of afterlife torment.. Any visits (Elijah and Moses on the mountain with Jesus?) are from a dimension called the future.. “No one has ascended” …We will “put on immortality” because - we will “put on perfection/incorruptibility”/total-catharsis.. “God is savior of all, especially those who believe/are believing” and Jesus “will draw all” so aka, “all”. 1Tim.4:10, Jn.12:32.}


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Monday, March 23, 2026

REVELATION - 19 9-16

 Apocalypse logic & riddles, weekly study, verses paraphrased [ ] references { } thots

BOOK OF REVELATION


9 - And the angel said to me (disciple John, seeing the vision in his old age while a prisoner at an island prison) “Write this - Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb!!”

     {Mt.25:1-13 - In the parable of the ten bridesmaids, the door (that shuts) is to serving, called reigning during the Lord’s long second advent. In the parable, the door is to the wedding and banquet/reception/supper/feast {sharing}. Which represents the catching away of dead and alive believers - aka the resurrection, called the first {partial collective, eschatological} resurrection. It is the wedding, the union. — “The door” closes to “the” millennium. It is noT a door to Life, forever closed. The door is to the wedding supper/banquet/reception and what comes after, up to the second, rest of humanity, eschatological vivification, at Rev.21:1-5 when God says - “behold!! I make all new!” The word “things” in the verse, was added).

     This vivification (“putting on of perfection”) however, is not simultaneous with its partner resurrection! But between the second resurrection, and the second vivification, is ‘Judgment Day’, the GWT judgment/discernment/review/closure for all ‘Day’. And to “rise into the judgment” Jn.5:29, is to rise “still in ones sins” [hamartia - missing the mark] {not yet perfected}.

     The the GWT Judgment ‘Day’, elsewhere called an aionion kolasis/eonian korrection/age of correction, with logical, INITIAL INNER torment for some (few? comparatively speaking that is) aka, the condition of misery, being the inner, outside of the light, darkness ..with gnashing of teeth.. Think, for example, of a heartless and cruel despot, or a child trafficker, rising into the judgment’s bright radiance of God’s Presence..

     But Jesus said he “will draw all” - Jn.12:32, so this tormented from within condition, will progress to weeping, beating self up.. “with many stripes”.. (Conscience is God’s whip?) And finally to heart and gut wrenching remorse (during judgment) when seeing the faces he stomped upon, the persons he/she hurt and harmed, even killed.

     But finally, after a while (purgatory flames are psychological) coming to realize ..God, the waiting, loving Presence/Spirit (Holy Ghost all loving) and mercy.. “Christ Crucified”.. the remedy God instituted, it being strong enough to appease every guilty conscience, even the worst of the worst. {Imperfect is an abyss of potential, and entropy, a slow gehenna that “is not put out” - the “worm that “doesn’t quit”.}

     The initial inner darkness condition of some is portrayed in the rich man and Lazarus parable and in the outside-of-the vision, narrative, of Rev.22.}

    (9) And the angel said to me, “These are the true words of God!” 10 And I fell at his feet {overwhelmed?} to worship him, but he said, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brethren who hold to the testimony of Jesus.” {Rev.12:17 w/ Mt.23:39.} “Worship God, for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” {Prophecy includes the spirit of teaching. The prophets taught and guided, along with telling where things were/are headed.}

     11 Then I saw heaven opened, and look! There was a white horse! {The gospel, the Truth, which rode forth “openly victorious over powers and principalities”. {Demons and kings. But then much later the return, after a “falling away” due to a “strong delusion” of “man(kind, anthropoi) seated in the temple as god”/as highest power, 2Thess.2:4.}

     And the one - sitting on the white horse - is called “Faithful and True”. In righteousness he judges and makes war {rescues, vindicates, works justice}. 12 His eyes are like flames of fire {penetrate} and upon his head are many crowns. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is clothed in a robe that was dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word/Message of God. {Master blueprint and plan. Embodiment of Truth. Crowned forever.}

     14 And the armies oF heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. 15 From his mouth comes a sharp sWord (Truth!) with which to strike down the nations, and he will {then} shepherd them {the nations/this is obviously future} with a rod {measuring rod} of iron {i.e. is un-breakable - truth cannot be broken, or done away with}. He treads the winepress of the fury of God the Almighty. [Fury - thumos - from thuo - to rush {7 thunders? Well, six.. as one is presently past} or to breathe hard] [Wrath - orgé - passion, wrath, indignation, a settled and abiding condition of mind with a view to justice {scales of justice! Cause and effect!} Settled indignation going forth ‘wrath’/consequences] {at cruel and heartless evils! The passion.}

     [Isaiah 13:9 says - Behold, the day of the LORD comes, cruel, with fury and fierce anger - to make the land a desolation, and to destroy its sinners from off it.] {But as cause and effect. Apocalypse is all man done. We have his number. Made up of carbon. Carbon has 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 6 electrons. Even the final “bowls” called “of God’s wrath” ..The “seven thunders”. Though one is past.

     Seven Thunders - Rev.10:4 (over and out, six are future. Didn’t 13:13 pinpoint an oFFice? NoT an individual.. as of yet). The thunders being Seal six but VEILED BY its description, a blend of its 1st aNd last effects, at the very beginning of the vision, Rev.6:12-17 -> 7:1,3.} {That 13:13 is the first seal 6 event, is possible because the vision is actually told three times, 6:1-2 to 11:19; ch.12 but vs.17 w/ mt.23:39; and 13:1 to 19:11, rejoining at the 7th trumpet’s sounding.}

     16 On his robe and upon his thigh he has a name written, “King of kings and Lord of lords!” [Upon his robe - “Inscriptions on the outer garments were sometimes used by distinguished personages. The title anticipates the final victory - biblehub dot com.]


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